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Voting Rights Forum Participant
Post Number: 2
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?)
|Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 3:49 pm: ||
There is a diary on Daily Kos at number 2 on the rec list right now that you guys should take a look at:
Nobody there seems to know about the work you are doing and I think they should.
They are discussing action for November 8 if it looks like the elections have been stolen yet again. I think this is an important area of discussion for your site as well.
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Post Number: 61
Best of Black Box?
Votes: 2 (A keeper?)
|Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 5:55 am: ||
Jennifer -- Daily Kos is more complex than it looks. While it appears that there is a free-flowing discussion there, in fact there is a subtle steering of the message there by the management. Discussions that don't go along with the official Democratic Party platform -- even if they are progressive, politically -- will be shut down if they get much of a following. In fact, according to one of the leading members there, an attorney named Armando, they will "find a way" to ban those who post off-platform.
Black Box Voting became a smear target at Kos and DU around the time that we started exposing problems in Volusia County Florida. You'll see these problems up close and personal in the new HBO special, "Hacking Democracy", which begins on Nov. 2 and airs most of the month. Apparently filmmakers, the HBO management, and the Time Warner machine behind HBO felt our work was credible enough to create an HBO signature special and show footage that was taken live during our investigations. Watch the film, and you be the judge.
When we uncovered problems in Palm Beach County, both Kos and DU went on full scale attack against Black Box Voting, primarily by engaging in personal attacks. At Democratic Underground, it went so far as posting the names and locations of my children. The administrators there left that information up for nearly 24 hours, despite the pleas of myself and every member of our board of directors. More recently, the administrators at DU allowed harassment posts targeting me personally, posted by an individual who used a screen name which is my children's name.
There are many theories as to why these sites management attempt to steer public opinion away from Black Box Voting's important work. Don't know why. But if I were you, I wouldn't waste my time trying to educate people there about Black Box Voting.
Kos has partipants, who according to a series of communications that we obtained, refer to themselves as the "security patrol." These individuals rush in to post general misinformation and smears when there is off-platform discussion.
It has subsided somewhat, because frankly, it was becoming obvious to everyone. But even now, the post you link to now has someone in it who writes, "Remember, Bev Harris is a Republican."
I've never been a Republican. Jim March, who is on our board, was a Republican but is now a registered Libertarian.
Both Kos and DU have some valuable threads, and are useful for vetting opinions. But both sites also steer the message towards the Democratic Party platform. As it gets close to the presidential election, you'll also see subtle manipulations by the admins that steer towards a particular candidate. It generally is not noticeable unless you are unfortunate enough to be a proponent of the non-annointed candidate, or a political opinion that isn't on the platform.
And, as many have noticed, independent investigations of the voting machines is definitely not in the Democratic Party platform.