(US) 7/06 - Demand Vote details WELL ...

Author Message   Todd Telford Voting Rights Forum Participant Username: Progtoddintigard Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2006 Best of Black Box? N/A Votes: 0 (A keeper?) Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 12:41 pm:        Greetings fellow warriors for truth and fairness, I have an idea that I'd like to put before you, and a mode for how to implement it. It's #8 from the TOP TEN TOOL TO TOPPLE THEOCRATIC/CORPORATIST TYRANNY found at http://miniprotests.com 8) PROTECT THE VOTE by encouraging FULL DISCLOSURE OF VOTER ROLLS, PRECINCT LOCATIONS, NUMBER OF POLLING BOOTHS AT EACH PRECINCT: In every state with a Republican Governor we must DEMAND, legally, audibly, and visually, that the practices which tilted the Ohio and Florida votes in the past WILL NOT BE ALLOWED and violators of each state’s rules WILL BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE. Charges on that issue are already pending in Ohio. Let’s see if that works its way up to Ken Blackwell or even Karl Rove. Again, we need to demand that the number of polling booths and number of precincts NEED TO BE DISCLOSED at least 30 days before both the primaries and the Nov. 06 mid-term elections. At the same time, the list of former felons to be excluded from the voters rolls need to be presented so those wrongly categorized in this group - Democrats, of course - will not be faced with using a provisional ballot which by law may never be counted. IF WE CAN CONVINCE EVERY DEMOCRATIC SECRETARY OF STATE TO VOLUNTARILY PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION FOR SCRUTINY, ANY REPUBLICAN WHO DOES NOT FOLLOW SUIT PUTS SUSPICION DIRECTLY ON HIS OR HER SHOULDERS. Here in Oregon we're lucky enough to have the ballot-by-mail process, although votes are still not tallied by hand. But just about everywhere else, loopholes for abuse abound and the GOP has no reluctance to utilize them. We need all Americans to demand the above standards are met and more. We can diffuse MOST TRICKS noted in RFK Jr.'s article in the Rolling Stone by forcing Sec. of States from deciding everything in private. We need to pave the way for bringing a level of scrutiny to the complete voting process that can give us confidence in its results. How? First, we contact all Secretaries of States overseeing elections under a Democratic governor. Pick out every dirty trick found in Bobby Kennedy Jr.'s article that can be diffused by full disclosure in advance of all details. Have each of the above Secretaries of State post links to that information on your site or others. Second, we initiate a small but persistent Direct Target Protesting campaign on the street corners leading to the offices of Secretaries of States under a Republican governor. Apply the concept of miniprotesting: using small groups of five or less on successive street corners in what I call "protest strings." This way protest groups make the best use of their numbers and reinforce their message many times over to vehicle occupants that pass by their miniprotests. And our Direct Target will be these Republican-controlled Secretaries of State and their office staff. The goal of miniprotesting for every progressive cause is to present a unity among all the voices of change. The mode for general campaigns throughout the US is for one person in each group to be holding a 30" by 40" main sign AT WAIST LEVEL that ends with "Against War," "Against Bush/GOP Lies," or "Is Wise to Bush/GOP Lies" on it. These are the unifying cries of our age. For this specific agenda, you can use a variant of the "is wise to..." notion with main signs for each of your groups to read, "BlackBoxVoting.org Is Wise to Republican Voting Manipulation." Then other protesters behind the center protester in each group would hold their signs overhead in the usual manner. This uniformity of presentation provides a "BRANDING OF THE MESSAGE" that will reinforce the impact of each group individually. There is a rather quaint depiction of this on the home page of http://miniprotests.com }   Catherine Ansbro Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant Username: Catherine_a Post Number: 3096 Registered: 12-2004 Best of Black Box? N/A Votes: 0 (A keeper?) Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 1:21 pm:        Hi Todd, quote: For this specific agenda, you can use a variant of the "is wise to..." notion with main signs for each of your groups to read, "BlackBoxVoting.org Is Wise to Republican Voting Manipulation." BlackBoxVoting.org is a 501(c)3 organization and is non-partisan. It would be incorrect to imply that BBV is only opposed "Republican Voting Manipulation" and you'd get BBV into serious trouble. BBV is opposed to all voting manipulation, regardless of the parties involved. You may get further if you encourage all voters--regardless of their party loyalties--to take actions to demand transparency in the decision-making process as you suggest. Would you consider using wording that appeals to everyone, and not just those of the party you prefer? Transparency is needed in all states and counties, regardless of which party predominates. Just think of Michigan, which demanded $175,000 just to check to see if they had any documents BBV requested under FOIA. Democrats have a lot of control in Michigan, yet the state adopts a stance that obstructs even the most basic transparency. The point is not to bash Michiganders or any particular party. Your points are valid everywhere and will have the greatest impact if they use language that all voters can relate to.   V. Kurt Bellman Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant Username: Formerelecdir Post Number: 487 Registered: 04-2006 Best of Black Box?  Votes: 1 (A keeper?) Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 2:16 pm:        Todd and Catherine, One other further note. In some states, Secretaries of State do not have jurisdiction over the types of things that Todd is referring to here. Just two examples are Alabama and Pennsylvania. In these states (one with a Republican Governor and one Democratic, even though both SoS's are Democrats) the state election officials exercise VERY LITTLE control over elections. The real decision making authority in both is at the COUNTY LEVEL. This is why it is MANDATORY to keep a local focus. National interest is fine, even statewide focus is warranted in some states. But in many you simply must operate at the most local levels. Lobbying Scretaries of State is a fruitless effort on some states. You must know and understand the local "lay of the land" much like professional political opeartives already do. These are not easy nuts to crack.   Tom Sweet Voting Rights Forum Participant Username: Tsweet Post Number: 7 Registered: 06-2006 Best of Black Box? N/A Votes: 0 (A keeper?) Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 6:06 pm:        Thank you Catherine....   Bev Harris Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 5456 Registered: 12-2004 Best of Black Box? N/A Votes: 0 (A keeper?) Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 7:02 pm:        Hip hip for Catherine. Thank you for your wisdom and for your articulate response. Todd, we do welcome you here, and I must say I smiled when I read "fellow warriors..." Mind if I use that phrase? * * * * * "We're counting the votes. Get over it." Be part of the solution: Please sign up for the NATIONAL HAND COUNT REGISTRY: Go to Home Page - Hand Count Registry is right above lead story Make November elections the biggest evidence gathering action ever. EVIDENCE = videotape, audiotape and photos. Come prepared. This time, focus on the COUNTING not just the voting.

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