(US) 7/06 - Baiman's presentation on ...

Author Message   Catherine Ansbro Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant Username: Catherine_a Post Number: 3081 Registered: 12-2004 Best of Black Box? N/A Votes: 0 (A keeper?) Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 10:41 pm:        http://www.baiman.blogspot.com/ This has a link to a PowerPoint presentation by Ron Baiman that you can download and save. It shows details of the Ohio discrepancies. This is worth a look. The discrepancies include exit poll data and scanned originals of formal election records including pollbooks, that document certified results that have major discrepancies (even taking into account absentee ballots requested and provisional ballots). In other words, the certified results are impossible. Kurt V. Bellman I'd love to hear your take on these election documents-- 1) Have you ever seen anything like this in PA? 2) What possible explanations come to mind when you see results like this? 3) Would you have certified an election with these kinds of discrepancies? 4) What options does an election official have, when he/she is presented with impossible results such as these?   Daniel Frank McMullan Voting Rights Forum Participant Username: Seevotedan Post Number: 72 Registered: 03-2005 Best of Black Box? N/A Votes: 0 (A keeper?) Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 3:17 am:        PowerPoint Virus warning: 07/23/07 I can't find more on it anywhere else (in last 30 minutes).. but thought it was important enought to mention. Just be careful! This Effects 2000.2002,2003 powerpoint users: http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/ptech/07/21/microsoft.virus.reut/index.html "SEATTLE, Washington (Reuters) -- Microsoft Corp. warned about a new computer virus that exploits a vulnerability in its PowerPoint presentation software to allow hackers to infiltrate computer systems. Microsoft issued an advisory on the company's security Web log on July 17 about the virus, which is carried out when a user launches a PowerPoint attachment to an e-mail or opens a file provided to them by the attacker." ..read more.. Of course, its best to read/create your PowerPoint files in OpenOffice; no viruses!! http://www.openoffice.org/product/impress.html (Message edited by seeVoteDan on July 24, 2006)   Mike Myhre Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant Username: Mike_myhre Post Number: 122 Registered: 02-2006 Best of Black Box? N/A Votes: 0 (A keeper?) Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:48 pm:        It mentions the Ohio ballots will be destroyed in Sept. unless they find a home. What about BBV? What form are these ballots? Didn't they use electronic machines that didn't have paper copies in many precincts? Wouldn't the RFK suit seek to preserve these ballots as evidence?   V. Kurt Bellman Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant Username: Formerelecdir Post Number: 482 Registered: 04-2006 Best of Black Box? N/A Votes: 0 (A keeper?) Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 8:26 am:        Mike, Virtually all of Ohio used a document based ballot in 2004, almost all of them punchcards. This is one of the unfortunate disinformation points that gets repeated all over the place - the idea that Diebold had much of anything to do with Ohio in 2004. They did not. Diebold was in only 2 of Ohio's 88 counties in 2004, and there with optical scan, NOT DRE machines. So the idea that Wally O'Dell could "deliver" Ohio in any meaningful way in 2004 is just rhetorical excess. Diebold was not the Ohio 2004 bogeyman. If anyone was, it was more likely Blackwell.   Robert Sawdey Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant Username: Rsawdey Post Number: 168 Registered: 01-2006 Best of Black Box? N/A Votes: 0 (A keeper?) Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 9:33 am:        Don't forget the optical scan machines can be hacked without leaving any evidence, as shown by Hursti, and RFK says they were used for 'vote flipping'. Observers were prevented from oversight with a phony Homeland Security Alert. The main tactic used by Blackwell in 2004 was voter disenfranchisement by biasing the registration process. But (after buying lots of stock) Blackwell has now flooded the whole state with millions of dollars of Diebold products. By 2005 half the precincts had them, when the election reform referendem mysteriously polled to pass by 2:1 but managed to fail by 2:1. O'Dell's fix with Blackwell may not have used much Diebold hardware in 2004, but they are surely joined at the hip now. You didn't mention whether Ohio was using the Diebold central tabulator software in 2004, which can be remotely hacked.

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