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admin
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Username: admin
Post Number: 619
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? 
Votes: 8 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 6:10 pm: | 
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Poll tapes and ballots in the trash, oh my. This video may take a few moments to download, but it's worth it. Bev Harris and "Pete" from the Volusia County warehouse fight over a bag of garbage, culminating in finding various poll tapes, a homemade ballot, and quite possibly the first formal public records request ever submitted for a bag of garbage.
A Volusia County Video:
http://www.bbvdocs.org/videos/volusia2.mpg |
admin
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Username: admin
Post Number: 621
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 7:49 am: |
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Folks -- we are frustrated with our video conversion and compression software. Currently using ULead (seems to be okay) and DVD Pro (glitchy, or we just don't get it). If you have recommendations, we're all ears. This video and a couple others gave error messages when trying to reduce quality in order to speed up load time.
Hats off to Kathleen, for taking all the videos, editing them, and making sure we get these obstructive public officials on tape.
Neither Kathleen nor I have experience with video editing software, and are learning as we go.
-- Bev |
catherine_a
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Username: catherine_a
Post Number: 369
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 1:07 pm: |
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The sound quality is poor. I can't understand most of the dialogue. Is there any chance of posting a transcript? |
kathleen_wynne
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Username: kathleen_wynne
Post Number: 80
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 9:15 pm: |
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catherine_a,
Sorry about the sound quality, particularly at the beginning of the tape. To be honest, I couldn't tell what the gentlemen was saying at the beginning either because I was too far away. I do know that Bev kept asking him why they were throwing away poll tapes and sample ballots.
Since I don't have a boom mike attached to my video camera, there will be times when the sound quality will be less than perfect, particularly in situations where I'm taping outside. However, just for situations like this one, we thought it would come across as less intrusive or threatening by not having a boom mike, and would less likely draw attention to me while I'm filming an "event". I'm always looking for that "candid camera" moment and the best way to get it is not to be noticed. Most of all, we don't want to tempt anyone to confiscate the camera or tell me to stop filming, as we've been in pretty touchy situations in the past where we thought this might happen. Funny thing, people just don't like being filmed when they are caught doing something they shouldn't!
After he and Bev have the "tug of war" with the garbage bag, the sound seems to be ok. Were you able to understand what was being said after the bag was ripped open or did you have problems with the whole clip? Let me know and I'll prepare a transcript for you.
Kathleen |
catherine_a
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Username: catherine_a
Post Number: 382
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 4:35 am: |
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There were a few places where I could understand it, but more where I couldn't.
It would be great to have the names of the various staff members who "featured," if those names are known. |
admin
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Username: admin
Post Number: 650
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? 
Votes: 1 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 1:54 pm: |
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All we know is that the guy I wrestled with is named "Pete" -- we wonder who the two women were, and I do not have the name of the African-American gentleman either, but both he and Pete were summoned to the elections office later that afternoon, because we saw them come in.
-- Bev |
Loretta Cochran
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Lcwriter
Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2005
Best of Black Box?
Votes: 3 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, November 4, 2005 - 10:37 am: |
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What I can't understand is why this tape wasn't released before the inauguration when it was requested by Oberman. I know Bev and Keith had a falling out, but I thought this process was about democracy, not a personal p*ssing contest. I am so disappointed. I thought BBV was about democracy and justice. I even asked my mother to donate to BBV in lieu of Christmas gifts last year. A fat lot of good it did. Now I wish I had asked for an iPod instead.
I am never voting again. What's the point? |
BBV Admin
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Username: Admin
Post Number: 2623
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, November 4, 2005 - 12:35 pm: |
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Loretta,
Do vote. If you don't, there will be no evidence to convict anyone with, even if we do prove tampering.
And don't listen to gossip.
Keith Olbermann never requested the tape.
Airing this Volusia County tape, while entertaining, could not have affected the outcome of the election. That's because the spread in Florida is bigger than all the votes in Volusia County combined.
If you are truly interested in democracy, as we certainly are, perhaps you can suggest (after familiarizing yourself with the work we've done in 2005) just what you would like us to do differently.
What we have done is collect evidence that will stand up in a court of law that proves the system used in 2004 was insecure, was probably designed for tampering.
We knew by Nov. 23 that Florida couldn't be contested, but that didn't stop us from investigating. Our work on Palm Beach County has proved the machines did not work properly, revealing at least 100,000 voting machine errors.
Our work in Volusia County led to bringing in Dr. Herbert Thompson and European expert Harri Hursti to look at the system used there, which is also used in 30 Florida counties and 800 U.S. jurisdictions. They proved how to tamper with it.
Our work has helped push the National Institute of Standards and Technology, and the General Accounting Office, to put the issue of voting machine security into the mainstream.
The two top elections officials in Florida (Secretary of State Glenda Hood and State Elections Chief Paul Craft) have just resigned.
It's not over yet.
-- Bev
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not absolutist
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Notabsolutist
Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2005
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 11:13 am: |
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"never voting again" is not a solution, its a win for them. |
BBV Admin
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Username: Admin
Post Number: 2817
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 12:21 pm: |
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not absolutist -- Thanks, and we agree. However, you'll need to re-register with real first and last name, or email me to request a privacy pass, explaining the reason, and I'll enable that if we have your correct info.
This forum has very honest, courageous discussion and to protect from disinformation and posers, we have found that real names are not only good for the quality of discourse, but good for America. We are setting examples for other citizens to stand up and be heard.
Welcome to Black Box Voting, hope to see you soon under your real name! |
anwar adi
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Username: Anwar
Post Number: 23
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Thursday, February 9, 2006 - 2:09 am: |
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It is hard to hear some parts. I'm in the process of putting this up on video.google.com and I figured a transcript would be good, so I wrote a rush transcript.
correct at will. I am pretty sure I can incorporate any corrections into the google transcript:
pete: [presumably saying he's gonna call the sheriff.]
bev: Call the sheriff! You can explain to him why you're throwing ballots and poll tapes away.
pete: you can go to the office [unintelligible]
bev: this is ... public property
pete: [unintelligible]
bev: why do you have ballots in the garbage bag
pete: [unintelligible]
bev: I looked in there, there's ballots and poll tapes.
pete: I [don't know] anything about it.
bev: who are you, what's your name.
pete: [unintelligible]
bev: what's your position?
pete: [unintelligible]
bev: what are you guys doing in the warehouse... got all the doors shut
pete: [unintelligible] purposes.
bev: they were all open this morning, we showed up and you had to shut them all.
pete: [unintelligible]
[woman walks out of door.]
bev[to woman]: I wanna know why you have ballots in the garbage bag?
pete: [unintelligible] [seems to be answering for the woman]
bev: ...why you have poll tapes in the garbage bag? .. or what you're doing in the warehouse.
[woman starts smoking]
bev[to woman]: what's your name?
pete: you can go to the office and ask all the questions you'd like.
bev: Absolutely not! We're gonna be here at the warehouse, we just called a film crew.
while bev is talking, the smoking woman calls out: "harvey" ....
pete[to woman]: call lana
[fade to a little later in video]
pete: I think you should call...
[Just then Bev and the man grab for the bag and struggle for it, tearing it open!]
bev[while rummaging through bag]: ballots! secrecy envelopes! Poll tapes!
smoking woman: where do I see a ballot? Show me a ballot. Show me a ballot.
bev[while digging through bag]: well you still haven't looked at [unintelligible]
smoking woman: Oh you're flippin out over a sample ballot!
pete: excuse me, go call the ... sheriff's, call lana[sp?], call lauren[sp?], call the sheiff's department.
bev: Ballots. Ballots. All I asked is [unintelligible] there in here. If they're sample ballots...
woman: I don't see a ballot! I wanna see a ballot. That's a sample ballot. [laughs]
bev: 'n you have this [holds up poll tape]
pete: [I don't know]
[a little later..]
bev: and in fact I'll submit a public records request for everything in this bag, right now, formally, and that way we can look through and we can get back to you .. and we'll be on our way.
bev: ... about the fact that they're thrown away. We can make a copy of'em
bev: we have an active public records request for these and they're being thrown away and we wanna know why.
[later...]
aftrican american gentleman: I don't know why you're picking through this for...
bev: well I'm gonna grab these poll tapes which I have a active public records request for and I've had all kinds of problems getting them from the county:
gengleman: you didn't get that poll tape from within *that* bag!
bev: I sure did. And video taped it.
gentleman: lemme see that [reaches over]
bev: nope!
gentleman: no -- I'm not gonna -- I'll give it right back to you.
bev: nope.
gengleman: probably just a..
bev: It's not the only one. I've got others.
gentleman: zero tape.
bev: got public records requests for the zero tape too
gentleman: well...
bev: ... they should not have been thrown out.
gentleman: if it's just a zero tape. there is no information on it that..
bev: not at all, a zero tape is an audit record, sir.
kathleen(from behind camera): and, bev you are doing right now?
bev[smiling]: I'm doing a public records request for the contents of the garbage bag.
That was fun. Go bev and kathleen! But I better get back to work now 
peace 2 u,
-anwar
(Message edited by Anwar on February 09, 2006) |
Bev Harris
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Username: Admin
Post Number: 3615
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Thursday, February 9, 2006 - 6:35 am: |
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Reasonably accurate. We'll go over the tape and check this. I really like the idea of transcribing the tapes.
By the way, while it's true there were sample ballots in the bag, not all were samples. What we found was a whole bunch of half-sized ballot masters. Put on the machine at 200% and copied they turn into ballots (except the ballot is missing a serial number). So, I got to wondering: Does this trash contain any un-serialnumbered full sized ballots that do not say "sample" that match Fidlar Doubleday ballot masters found in the same bag (curiously, Fidlar uses mini-ballot masters for packing slips, how handy!)
The answer was yes. They were making ballots in the warehouse.
Add to this: The Volusia County ballot vault was available to the some same people who were at the warehouse, 24 hours a day. Put these two things together and the hand-count audits become a joke.
We can't fit the ballots through our scanner, because they are a tad too wide. The hangup for getting them online has been that we'll have to take ballots to Kinkos to have them scanned. |
Catherine Ansbro
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Username: Catherine_a
Post Number: 1703
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Thursday, February 9, 2006 - 6:46 am: |
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It would be great if some or all of these comments could be added to the text of the transcript.
Also, during the video, some of the text flashes by so quickly it was almost impossible to read. Also, some of the text obstructed the picture because of where it was placed on the screen. Is this something that can be edited for the future? |
Bev Harris
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Username: Admin
Post Number: 3621
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Thursday, February 9, 2006 - 9:01 am: |
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I think, for the future, we should release transcripts at the same time as all video clips. |
Catherine Ansbro
Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Catherine_a
Post Number: 1705
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Thursday, February 9, 2006 - 9:37 am: |
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Excellent idea. Sometimes the transcript is even more powerful than the video. It'll also be useful for those who don't have a fast internet connection. |
anwar adi
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Anwar
Post Number: 26
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Thursday, February 9, 2006 - 2:08 pm: |
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Bev Harris:
By the way, while it's true there were sample ballots in the bag, not all were samples. What we found was a whole bunch of half-sized ballot masters. Put on the machine at 200% and copied they turn into ballots (except the ballot is missing a serial number). So, I got to wondering: Does this trash contain any un-serialnumbered full sized ballots that do not say "sample" that match Fidlar Doubleday ballot masters found in the same bag (curiously, Fidlar uses mini-ballot masters for packing slips, how handy!)
The answer was yes. They were making ballots in the warehouse.
Add to this: The Volusia County ballot vault was available to the some same people who were at the warehouse, 24 hours a day. Put these two things together and the hand-count audits become a joke.
wow! I think, in the eyes of the casual observer adding this would disambiguate things.
i think, ideally, if everyone had infinite time, switching over to a short clip of bev saying this to an interviewer(clip would probably be a few seconds) and then switching back and forth between the repeated shouts of "I wanna see ballots!" could be quite exciting.
in the interim I think I can edit the video to include this in a black screen interspliced with the action, using my newly found skills of using microsoft video editor or ulead 
it might be good to include this in the video itself. That way it's naturally part of the transcript and someone downloading it and posting it on, say, youtube would not lose info.
also i was wondering why not include blackboxvoting.org as the watermark. I think I can add that too if people are too busy.
Bev: Do you want me to hold off putting this up on google until your extra info is added to the video?
peace 2 u,
-anwar |
anwar adi
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Anwar
Post Number: 27
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Thursday, February 9, 2006 - 2:17 pm: |
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google is quick. It's up:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-758105072598465368
I am pretty sure I can modify it anytime though.
peace 2 u,
-anwar |
anwar adi
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Anwar
Post Number: 35
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 9:33 am: |
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I think there is a sight problem.
It looks like I can't modify the video after putting it up (oops I think I was too hasty and didn't notice that). I can either keep it there or remove it and put up a different version.
But others may have already linked to this video...one risks breaking links on blogs or whatever.
yesterday there were 17 views of the video (most views of all the bbv videos). I think it might take off from there quite quickly.
So if one wants to change it, it should probably be sooner. I'm doing a small amateur change just to add the extra info bev provided above, I hope to put it up somewhere for people's approval soon before uploading it. Also I plan to wait for your approval before removing the current version if at all. I am assuming you must have been pretty happy with it to put it up on this web site so I don't wanna change anything unless you approve.
wish I knew more about broadcasting 
peace 2 u,
-anwar
(Message edited by Anwar on February 10, 2006) |
anwar adi
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Username: Anwar
Post Number: 37
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 11:13 am: |
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I just made a slightly modified version:
After the smoking woman shouts at bev claiming there are only "sample ballots" there is a part were bev is digging and nobody is talking. I have bev's words "while it's true there were sample ballots in the bag, not all were samples" scroll slowly across the screen. Afterwars the action continues with "lemme see that"
then at the end. in star wars style, I put bev's full comment that starts with "by the way" until "a joke" with the following silly text I guess added by me in square brakets. I can remove that if people don't like it.
[Vote fraud can become the Ultimate Weapon capable of destroying ENTIRE ELECTIONS. We must act to restore accuracy and openness to our democracy...]
blackboxvoting.org
I plan to have it up at a personal, unpublished, url shortly for people to look at if they're curious.
(... I think there are many parallels to star wars actually.) But truth is the star-wars style scrolling was the best I could find to scroll large blocks of text:
any comments? any changes are quite easy at this time.
peace 2 u,
-anwar
(Message edited by Anwar on February 10, 2006) |
anwar adi
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Anwar
Post Number: 38
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 11:36 am: |
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here it is:
http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~aadi/volusa_anwar4.WMV
peace 2 u,
-anwar
(Message edited by Anwar on February 10, 2006) |
Catherine Ansbro
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Username: Catherine_a
Post Number: 1711
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 12:30 pm: |
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Personally I'd take out the final comment. But that's up to BBV.
I didn't get any sound--is it just me? |
anwar adi
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Username: Anwar
Post Number: 39
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 2:23 pm: |
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Catherine Ansbro:
Personally I'd take out the final comment. But that's up to BBV.
I didn't get any sound--is it just me?
Yeah, I'm not too sure about the last comment myself. It was written on a bit of a sleep-deprived star-wars-geeky whimsy.
About the sound, I think if it gets uploaded to google, it will get transformed into the standard mpeg-4 format and play with flash player which will hopefully not have sound issues.
I'll see if I can turn it into an mpeg and I'll remove the comment to see what people think.
peace 2 u,
-anwar
(Message edited by Anwar on February 10, 2006) |
Catherine Ansbro
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Username: Catherine_a
Post Number: 1713
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 3:36 pm: |
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This is really a huge help that you're doing this.
It will make these much more accessible, I have no doubt.
Your transcript initiative is superb--really enhances the effectiveness. |
anwar adi
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Anwar
Post Number: 40
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 4:42 pm: |
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This is really a huge help that you're doing this.
It will make these much more accessible, I have no doubt.
Your transcript initiative is superb--really enhances the effectiveness.
 Thanks. It's not that hard and really exciting to be the one to introduce these videos on google video. I just wish I could do it faster. To me, this video was just begging for a transcript. Making the transcipt took some time (so it delayed me putting up the other clips) ...but it was so much fun!
And again if anyone has any corrections to the transcript it's easy to change. Hopefully, over time, I'll add any corrections I find too.
peace 2 u,
-anwar
(Message edited by Anwar on February 10, 2006) |
anwar adi
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Anwar
Post Number: 41
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 4:45 pm: |
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Bev Harris:
Add to this: The Volusia County ballot vault was available to the some same people who were at the warehouse, 24 hours a day.
Bev, did you mean "some of the same people" or "the same people"
I'm guessing "some of the same people" to be conservative.
peace 2 u,
-anwar
(Message edited by Anwar on February 10, 2006) |
anwar adi
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Anwar
Post Number: 45
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 3:02 am: |
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for what it's worth, I have a new modified version here for people's perusal.
http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~aadi/volusa7.wmv
please let me know what you think
I hope to go to convert to mpeg and possibly do more editing tomorrow. Having a little trouble with it now.
it should work with the latest *sigh* microsoft media player
as a linux person I don't like having to rely on microsoft to edit video, but linux I don't think has cought up in video editing. so tomorrow I plan to do the next best thing...go use a unix-based mac at the library---which comes with very nice video editing software.
peace 2 u,
-anwar |
Bev Harris
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Username: Admin
Post Number: 3646
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 10:54 am: |
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anwar: some of the same people. Specifically, we have very credible reports from a Volusia County official that Lana Hires had full access to both the ballot vault and the warehouse, and it is not unusual for the ballot vault there to be left unlocked with the door standing open. In fact, we observed that ourselves, meaning anyone at the elections headquarters might be able to nip in there for a quick ballot swap, especially if you have some minty fresh ones printed at the warehouse.
We observed "Pete" from the warehouse also at the elections headquarters where the ballot vault is, and we also saw Denise Hansen at both places. This is not accusing people, this is pointing out procedural issues which need to be cleaned up.
We also know that Lana Hires (who has now retired) took voter registration documents home. We know this because we found one discarded in her trash!
It was Pynchon who ultimately pinched that evidence, but the story on that particular dumpster dive is hilarious. I don't have permission to tell who was involved in the initial attempt. Suffice it to say that someone quite proper and highly unlikely decided to try a Volusia County dumpster dive, bungled it, pinched the wrong person's garbage, and ended up in a somewhat traumatic situation involving a wrestling match with a gigantic fern, barking dogs, worries about a Florida shotgun, and suddenly -- eagerly patrolling police cars! A most stressful position for someone attired in a tidy yellow business shirt with a button-down collar, especially if that person detests Florida snakes and gators. A hasty retreat through the brush was out of the question.
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Robert Sawdey
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Username: Rsawdey
Post Number: 20
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 1:25 pm: |
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That's what we need, security perimeters with TEETH! hahahaha |
anwar adi
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Anwar
Post Number: 55
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 8:36 pm: |
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The library closed before I could finish video editing today. I was learning (this is not my specialty  ) and I think I have titles and iMovie figured out now. iMovie produces very nice titles. The library does not open until 11am tomorrow so I will hopefully have a nice-looking modified version by tomorrow evening with as much of the extra info that bev just added incorporated.
peace 2 u,
-anwar |
anwar adi
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Anwar
Post Number: 56
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 9:03 pm: |
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Vernon Reisenleiter:
anwar, Here are a couple of nits for your consideration. Please don't take them to be a criticism of the great job that you doing here.
Suggestions
We here know that Volusia is a county in Florida, but I don't think the casual googler who came across that page would. Think about working that in somehow.
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Could you make your metadata available? I think we want to grab the casual googler, and someone here might have suggestions for additional keywords.
My Google search.
I just did a search using throwing away ballots poll tapes and got 450,000+ hits, but I didn't see any hits on the video. (I didn't go past the second page.) However, I did notice that they referred to a November 2004 encounter in Volusia.
I am copying this over from the general CANDID AMERICA video.google thread for organizational purposes. The metadata for the video is mostly visible. The transcript is posted here. The only thing that's not visible I think is the genres I assigned the video.
The genres I gave it are :
Documentary
Drama (Non-Fiction)
News
They only allow you to specify 3. I plan to put a full list of categories in the "CANDID AMERICA PROJECT video.google" thread so that it can be a general reference for those who want to suggest genres.
peace 2 u,
-anwar
(Message edited by Anwar on February 11, 2006) |
anwar adi
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Anwar
Post Number: 63
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 8:46 pm: |
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okay here is what I put together:
http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~aadi/volusia99.mp4
I tried to encompass everyone's suggestions and extra info. I would appreciate any comments.
If you have trouble viewing this try using the latest version of QuickTime...or stay tuned...it's taking a while to make the mpeg.
peace 2 u,
-anwar
(Message edited by Anwar on February 12, 2006) |
anwar adi
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Username: Anwar
Post Number: 64
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 9:36 pm: |
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here's the mpg:
http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~aadi/volusia99.mpg
peace 2 u,
-anwar |
anwar adi
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Username: Anwar
Post Number: 65
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 7:41 am: |
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I already found a mistake in my video. I added a title saying that you also found a "ballot" in lana's trash when it was really a registration document...oops..having a little too much fun. Sorry, I'll have to redo it. I'm gonna bring down my links above.
peace 2 u,
-anwar |
anwar adi
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Anwar
Post Number: 72
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 12:02 am: |
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I have made a slightly altered version which adds some more info as per people's suggestions and bev's extra info. I also tried to enhance the audio in the beginning to make it more audible.
Here is my humble submission:
http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~aadi/volusiaplain.mov
and this:
http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~aadi/volusiaextratitles.mov
..a slightly less humble submission 
I would be curious what people thought of these and possibly putting them up on video.google in addition to what's up there.
By the way there have been over 100 views of the original video on video.google now!
peace 2 u,
-anwar
(Message edited by Anwar on February 16, 2006) |
anwar adi
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Username: Anwar
Post Number: 93
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 12:28 am: |
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more info in bev's expansive narrative here:
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/2197/15675.html
I'm linking to that just in case it's handy.
peace 2 u,
-anwar
(Message edited by Anwar on February 24, 2006) |
Christopher Foran
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Sorry for joining in late here - but could someone please give a context for this whole thread / video? Who, what, where, when? Entertaining but I have no idea what the hell is happening. Everyone on the thread appears to have information I don't know. Like I said sorry for arriving late but I an interesting in learning more. Thanks. |
Pat Vesely
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Post Number: 148
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 8:41 pm: |
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Hi Chris, welcome to Black Box Voting.org!
Better late than never.
Who: Bev Harris and a Volusia County employee only identified as "Pete".
What: Bev and Pete are fighting over a garbage bag containing public records including signed poll tapes and ballots from the 2004 presidential election that were destined for the trash, against the records retention laws.
Where: Taped at the Volusia County Elections Divisions Warehouse, Volusia County, Florida.
When: Monday, November 15, 2004
Why: That's what we'd all like to know!
Here's one really good writeup about it posted at the time.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0411/S00246.htm
There are a lot more available at this Google search link.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Bev+Harris%22,+%22Volusia+County%22,+trash&hl= en&lr=&start=0&sa=N
I hope this helps. If you have any specific questions please post them in the 1 on 1 forum and we'll be happy to answer them!
Pat A. Vesely ;-) |
