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Bev Harris
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 3772
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? 
Votes: 10 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 8:33 pm: | 
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"You could steal the election and no one would ever know," Leon County (FL) supervisor of elections Ion Sancho says.
Sancho arranged for an independent study by Black Box Voting with security experts Harri Hursti and Dr. Herbert Thompson, discovering critical security flaws in the Diebold voting system. These flaws were confirmed in a study ordered by the California Secretary of state. Today the state of Florida issued a Technical Advisory to all Supervisors of Elections based on these findings.
And today, Sancho received a letter from Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Sec. State Sue Cobb, threatening action by the state of Florida to take over Leon County elections.
(Link: Letter from Jeb Bush/Sue Cobb to Sancho)
Ion Sancho is one of the most highly respected elections officials in the nation. He stood up to the state of Florida, refusing to cooperate with purging voters who are not felons from the voters list, working from lists provided by the state of Florida erroneously claiming they were felons.
Felon Disenfranchisement: Purging the Minority Vote
It is Sancho who was chosen to lead the Florida hand count in the contentious 2000 Bush v. Gore race. The U.S. Supreme Court nixed the hand count.
Scarcely begun, recounts halted in 5-4 U.S. Supreme Court ruling
And it is Sancho who has provided the most convincing evidence of the utter failure of both the federal testing labs and Florida's state voting machine testing. Neither the federal labs caught the defects which are referred to in the Hursti Report as "the mother of all security holes" and "an unlockable revolving door."
Diebold knew
After the findings in Leon County were published in May 2005, Diebold responded by attacking and smearing the messenger (Ion Sancho), denying the problem instead of fixing the system.
Diebold letters to officials
Instead of warning other elections officials so they could improve security by taking countermeasures, Diebold sent hundreds of letters to elections officials throughout the U.S. smearing Sancho for being "irresponsible" and denying that the flaws exist.
Diebold's denials didn't work in Pennsylvania. The state of Pennsylvania, after independent testing by Carnegie-Mellon computer scientist Michael Shamos, refused to certify the system.
Pennsylvania declines some Diebold...
The state of California commissioned its own independent study (Berkeley Report), which confirmed the results from Leon County:
quote:"Harri Hursti's attack does work: Mr. Hursti's attack on the AV-OS is definitely real. He was indeed able to change the election results by doing nothing more than modifying the contents of a memory card. He needed no passwords, no cryptographic keys, and no access to any other part of the voting system, including the GEMS election management server."
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"Memory card attacks are a real threat: We determined that anyone who has access to a memory card of the AV-OS, and can tamper it (i.e. modify its contents), and can have the modified cards used in a voting machine during election, can indeed modify the election results from that machine in a number of ways. The fact that the the results are incorrect cannot be detected except by a recount of the original paper ballots."
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"Successful attacks can only be detected by examining the paper ballots: There would be no way to know that any of these attacks occurred; the canvass procedure would not detect any anomalies, and would just produce incorrect results. The only way to detect and correct the problem would be by recount of the original paper ballots, e.g. during the 1 percent manual recount."
Diebold issued written statements to the Arizona Secretary of State and to elections officials throughout America claiming that passwords were needed, and also that the vulnerabilities did not exist.
Meanwhile, Ion Sancho has been blackballed by the vendors.
Three vendors make it impossible to buy
Diebold punished Leon County elections chief Ion Sancho by breaching its contract, refusing to provide upgrades that Leon County had already paid for. Without the upgrades, Leon County could not stay HAVA compliant.
When Sancho went to Election Systems & Software (ES&S) for a replacement system, ES&S led him on for weeks, then on the eve of the Florida deadline, refused to sell to him.
Sancho went to the only remaining authorized vendor, Sequoia Voting Systems (a system that revealed over 100,000 errors in its voting system computer logs during the 2004 presidential election), but Sequoia stalled the talks and failed to provide Sancho with an offer.
The companies seem to be tag-teaming with the state of Florida, which has given Sancho just a few weeks to purchase a system. If all three companies stall just long enough, they can effectively oust Sancho.
The state of Florida knew
In July 2005, Black Box Voting sent a certified copy of the Hursti Report to then-Florida secretary of state Glenda Hood and to then-Florida voting system chief, Paul Craft. In addition, Paul Craft received a letter from world-renowned M.I.T. security expert Ronald Rivest warning that the Hursti findings were a serious concern.
Yet the state of Florida did no additional study or testing. Glenda Hood and Paul Craft resigned suddenly in November 2005, with Sue Cobb and David Drury taking over -- but no studies of the critical security flaw identified in Leon County were ordered by either the former or the current secretary of state, nor were any studies done by either voting system examiner.
The problem was first reported by Black Box Voting in May 2005, with formal reports going out by certified mail in July 2005. After no action by Florida officials, a full fledged demonstration of hacking the election in Leon County took place on Dec. 13, 2005
At this time, Gov. Jeb Bush promised to look into the problem, but commissioned no studies and did nothing to decertify the system after its flaws were confirmed in other states.
Volunteers ready and willing to hand count Leon County; Florida says it's against the law
When news of Leon County's blackballing spread across the nation, volunteers from as far away as New Hampshire and Texas began plans to step in and hand-count the next two Leon County elections.
Jeb Bush isn't having any part of that: No hand counts can take place in Florida. It's the law.
The state of Florida has not only continued to demand that officials purchase unauditable paperless touch-screens, but actually accelerated the schedule. Whereas most states require HAVA-compliant systems by the first federal election in 2006, Florida moved the compliance date up to January 2006.
Florida has declined to certify the AutoMark, a device that enables election supervisors to comply with a Help America Vote Act (HAVA) mandate for the disabled, forcing county officials to use only paperless touch-screen machines for disabled voters.
Florida missing a key protection for county election officials
Privatization of public necessities into the hands of for-profit companies does not work unless certain safeguards are in place. In Florida, voting system suppliers must be authorized by the state. The state has approved only three suppliers.
There are other industries which are limited to a few suppliers -- power companies, telecommunications providers, cable networks. However, in order to become authorized suppliers these vendors MUST agree to sell to willing buyers.
In other words, "You can only buy from this limited pool of vendors, but they, in turn, MUST sell to you."
The business model doesn't work if you don't force the limited supplier pool to sell to willing buyers. Florida's failure to properly structure the elections business model has created an impossible situation in Leon County.
Requiring vendors to sell to willing buyers is a KEY SAFEGUARD in cases where the government limits the supplier pool for a public necessity.
- The state of Florida failed in its duty to ensure secure voting systems. It's testing failed to spot critical security flaws.
- The state of Florida failed to enact a provision requiring voting system supplier to sell to willing buyers, while at the same time, limiting the pool of suppliers to just three vendors who can refuse service at will.
- Diebold Election Systems failed to warn its customers of known security problems, denied the problems, and punished the county elections official who discovered the problem by refusing to perform on its paid-in-advance contract.
According to the Associated Press, Sancho plans to fight!
"We will be talking to our lawyers over the weekend," Sancho said. "Somebody is going to pay for it."
State orders security safeguards for voting machines
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For another good story on this, with additional insights, see the Bradblog story |
Russell Novkov
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Rnovkov
Post Number: 13
Registered: 02-2006
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 9:51 pm: |
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This is a corrupt state as far as voting rights are.
Russell J. Novkov
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Linda Franz
Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Linda_franz
Post Number: 212
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box?
Votes: 2 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 11:05 pm: |
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Diebold breaches a paid contract and the Governor wants to go after the county official?
Hello, the state should be going after Diebold.
Vendors blackball Leon County and the state goes after the county?
The state ought to yank the approvals of all vendors engaged in that activity.
The state is involved in a Catch-22 that not only is working FOR the vendors, but is also an implied threat to anyone else who fails to appease the vendors.
Since when is it the state's business to strong arm it's counties for the non-performance of the vendors?
Is that a form of extortion?
The state has literally granted an exclusive contract to specific and limited vendors.
With that privilege comes responsibilities.
If these companies were truly in the "business" of selling equipment, they'd jump at the chance to pick up the business Diebold lost. |
Sharon M. Foster
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Smfoster
Post Number: 15
Registered: 02-2006
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, March 4, 2006 - 4:55 am: |
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Linda, can you say "R.I.C.O."? |
Joseph Hall
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Joehall
Post Number: 55
Registered: 01-2005
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, March 4, 2006 - 8:47 am: |
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Can't seem to read the letters. |
Bev Harris
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 3779
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, March 4, 2006 - 9:01 am: |
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Fixed the three incorrect links, and also those in the archive copy. Thanks Joe and Catherine for catching this. |
Bruce Sims
Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Ubetchaiam
Post Number: 697
Registered: 06-2005
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, March 4, 2006 - 10:05 am: |
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And why isn't Jeb Bush being investigated for destroying documents associated with the Abramoff scandal? |
Vickie Karp
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Vickie_karp
Post Number: 25
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, March 4, 2006 - 8:47 pm: |
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Yet another amazing chapter in Florida's quest for fair elections!
It should be illegal for it to be illegal to hand count paper ballots. |
Bev Harris
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 3783
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, March 4, 2006 - 11:50 pm: |
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Hey, Vickie,
I've been hearing about the great work you've been doing as a speaker on this matter -- recently pinch-hitting for a home run.
I haven't forgotten about that reminder -- we were in a location with poor communications last week, and I'm just catching up with Internet and e-mail.
I love your quote: "It should be illegal for it to be illegal to hand count paper ballots."
Florida elections are currently being run by the Mad Hatter -- too messy so they just go on to the next one without cleaning up what they've got. |
Linda Franz
Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Linda_franz
Post Number: 213
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Monday, March 6, 2006 - 8:26 am: |
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5 States Sue Government Over Medicare
AUSTIN, Texas, March 3, 2006
(AP) Texas and four other states sued the federal government Friday, alleging they are being forced to help fund the new Medicare prescription drug program in violation of the Constitution.
In the lawsuit filed in the U.S. Supreme Court, Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott argued that states should not have to relinquish taxpayer dollars for a program offered by the federal government.
He called the funding system "a direct tax upon Texas and other states in violation of the U.S. Constitution."
Rest of story:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/03/health/main1369365.shtml
You can move this post or delete if not applicable to topic.
HAVA required state (county) funds for a program that went so far as to specify DRE's.
HAVA literally required states to work through certain vendors, with a "filter" run by an organization funded by those vendors.
It seems like states should have had the option of setting up RFQ's and the like, selecting systems based upon the federal standards (yes, I know) but with options to be more stringent.
I guess the question is, states should consider similar actions against HAVA, especially since it seems to have set up a bottomless pit for counties to pour money into for the benefit of vendors.
http://www.columbusdispatch.com/?story=dispatch/2006/03/05/20060305-C1-00.html |
Joseph D'Aiello
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Jjandi
Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2006
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Monday, March 6, 2006 - 3:43 pm: |
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Another chilling reality. I walked up to an ATM machine the other day at Wells Fargo bank and there staring me in the face was a brand new Diebold ATM machine. With this companys dubious behavior and its connections to our currupt government It's time to reevaluate my banking need's.Wells Fargo get rid of those machine's. |
Kenneth D. Brown
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Kenny453
Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2006
Best of Black Box?
Votes: 2 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Monday, March 6, 2006 - 10:20 pm: |
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Are You Insane? If so, you may have contracted this condition through no fault of your own. I mean just look around the nation, there seems to be an epidemic of insanity going around. Dick Cheney, in all likelihood drunk, shoots his friend in the face, which leads to him having a heart attack, and his friend apologizes for what the Cheney family had to go through. The New York Times exposes illegal warrant less wiretapping of US citizens and the government's response is not that the illegal activity should be punished, but the exposure of it. The President spends five years trying to foster fear of all things Arab and Muslim, and leads the public to confuse Osama with Saddam, and then tries to sneak by the public and the congress a deal to sell port operations to a government known to have been friendly with Osama in the recent past. He seems irritated that anyone would be suspicious of Arab princes who have partied with, and laundered money for, the world's most famous terrorist, perhaps because both parties have been friendly with the Bush family for far longer than anyone can remember.
The Los Angeles DA's office is set to prosecute a man who blew the whistle on a company, Diebold, whose entire raison d'etre is to deceive state and federal officials into handing over to it the opportunity to steal elections for their republican patrons. Kafka-esque is the word that comes to mind. Shame on The LA District Attorney and on Diebold.
Now I read that In Florida Jeb Bush colludes with Diebold, ESS, and Sequoia, to force Leon County election supervisor, Ion Sancho, to purchase one of these proven vote rigging systems or be forced to let the state take over elections there. And in Pennsylvania, system examiner Michael Shamos, finding that Diebold and ESS designed their paper trails incorrectly, has decided that the answer is not to have a paper trail at all.
And of course the democrats, many of whom are republicans, still can't bring themselves to challenge this chimp in any meaningful way, like shutting down the senate and the house, like calling Bush on his incompetence, like insisting that computerized, paperlesss, unverifiable, hackable voting machines be banned. Will they nominate Hillary? Kerry? Gore? Dean? An unknown? It won't make a bit of difference if the voter supression tactics used in Florida in 2000 and Ohio, New Mexico and Nevada in 2004 are allowed to continue in 2006 and 2008. I'm not voting again for anyone who lacks the guts to fight for an election they actually won. Kenny453 |
Pat Vesely
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Pat_vesely
Post Number: 66
Registered: 02-2006
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Monday, March 6, 2006 - 11:12 pm: |
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Hi Kenny, welcome to Black Box Voting.org!
When you put it that way, things do seem just a bit strange lately. I thought it was just me. 
Pat A. Vesely ;-)
Paper ballots are the 'Currency of Democracy'. They've been helping to curb election fraud since 139 BCE!
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Kenneth D. Brown
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Kenny453
Post Number: 2
Registered: 03-2006
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 1:22 am: |
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And our neighbor to the north counts all their national elections by hand, no problem. Paper ballots. No problem. |
Jim Eldon
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Vegsledman
Post Number: 12
Registered: 12-2005
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 7:33 am: |
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Exactly. Why we have anything but a zero-tolerance attitude toward electronically mediated elections is mind-boggling.
Hopefully, the current explosion of activism will push our culture in that direction. In this respect I don't think we can ever thank Bev and other activists like her enough, except by joining in the fray.
Jim |
Kerry Kimes
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Kerrykimes
Post Number: 11
Registered: 02-2006
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 9:26 am: |
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Am I just seeing things or is it that Republicans keep pushing DRE's and Vote scanners and tabulators from these vendors and they're outrageous behavior? 
Most historians agree the Roman Republic was in trouble when the citizens were seriously dissatisfied with their corrupt Senate. The Republic ended when Julius Caesar returned with massive military victories all over the Mediteranean and Europe and was so highly praised no one stood in the way when he declared himself Emporer.
The situation in the USA today seems to be a lot more twisted. The Republic is in trouble because, an obviously corrupt political party controls the Senate and House as well as the Whitehouse. They believe themselves above all laws and are bringing home a massive military mess in the Middle East.
Seems George W Bush won't have any luck declaring himself Emporer. As for the Republicans... well they may get run out of town on a rail when all is said and done. And they just keep digging their heels in even, as many are getting thrown in jail. What's to be made of that? Seems likely
Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia company execs will be in jail,too. And then the country wil be run by the Democrats, Greens and Libertarians?
Not a very good plan the GOP has going.
(Message edited by kerrykimes on March 08, 2006) |
Catherine Ansbro
Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Catherine_a
Post Number: 1850
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 9:37 am: |
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More serious even than political control of House and Senate, is when any given political party controls the Supreme Court and the judiciary. Especially if the judiciary support the point of view that a President can override any laws at will.
I'd be worried if either major party did this, regardless of what they called themselves. |
Catherine Ansbro
Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Catherine_a
Post Number: 1852
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 11:20 am: |
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For the record--if a minor party were to control the judiciary I wouldn't like that, either. |
Catherine Ansbro
Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Catherine_a
Post Number: 1853
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 11:22 am: |
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It seems to me that we have a plutocracy controlling the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branch. This is more insidious than limiting the problem to either political party. |
Linda Franz
Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Linda_franz
Post Number: 215
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 11:22 am: |
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IMHO, this problem crosses political parties.
It took complacency, compliance, or complicity- across the polictical spectrum, for the sorry state our elections are in now.
Ownership of vendors is just one facet.
You can't paint people within the parties with one brush.
In my state we've fought a battle with a Republican Secretary of State, while one of our best proponents for auditable voting has been a Republican legislator.
The Secretary of State in Georgia is a Democrat, and has long been a proponent of paperless elections. I believe Linda Lamone of Maryland, a Diebold advocate, is a Democrat.
Elections that cannot be verified hurt both parties.
Primaries, if "manipulated," are the first level of hurt to the parties at large.
The point I'm making is that we need to focus on all aspects and levels of the election process.
If we can truly get people up for election that don't present the choice of the, "less least desirable," we'll be getting somewhere.
Food for thought with the caveat that other factors like smear campaigns and media play in, too:
Republican primary, 2000:
Bush over McCain? 
Democratic primary, 2004:
Kerry over Dean?  |
Catherine Ansbro
Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Catherine_a
Post Number: 1854
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 11:25 am: |
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I agree, Linda. It's not about political parties. |
Patricia Tavormina
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Patty
Post Number: 46
Registered: 04-2005
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 12:55 pm: |
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If any of you wish to fight the good fight elsewhere, see this thread:
http://physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=934382&posted=1#post934382
This is a fairly active politics board, and a couple knee-jerk conservatives can only shout "conspiracy theory conspiracy theory!" which is maddening as these individuals are supposed to be educated members of our society.
If I am misrepresenting BBV on that thread, please feel free to correct me.
Any CS type people are particularly encouraged to add their two cents. |
Pat Vesely
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Pat_vesely
Post Number: 93
Registered: 02-2006
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 1:15 pm: |
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Thanks for the heads up on that forum Patricia! You can bet that you'll be seeing my name show up there in the very near future! I have a meeting to attend later this evening so I can't sign up there till later tonight at the earliest.
Pat A. Vesely ;-)
Paper ballots are the 'Currency of Democracy'. They've been helping to curb election fraud since 139 BCE!
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Patricia Tavormina
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Patty
Post Number: 47
Registered: 04-2005
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 3:09 pm: |
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A word to the wise, Pat -
You may want to emphasize your expertise with the systems *without* mentioning BBV or your personal political leanings.
You know I'm occasionally hard on you guys here, for problems that I see in the style of your representation of issues. Despite this, I'm branded a conspiracy nut idealogue *there*, simply because I am vocal about the possibility of vote fraud and I reference black box voting.
I'd sure appreciate your input, though. |
Pat Vesely
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Pat_vesely
Post Number: 94
Registered: 02-2006
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 3:34 pm: |
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I'm already signed up. Thanks for the warning but I'm going to use my real name and disclose my relationship with BBV.org. I also have no problem disclosing the fact that I'm a registered Democrat. Just because I tend to lean towards liberal and progressive lines of political thinking does not mean that I turn a blind eye to the failings of Democratic representatives. Quite to the contrary, I tend to hold them to higher ethical standards than I do representatives that I hold no sway over with my vote.
Facts are facts, I have mine in order. Lets see if Russ can provide any of his own and I'll leave it up to the casual reader of that forum to decide which are really relevant to them. That forum has a rather well written set of rules for posting so it will be interesting to see if Russ can stay within the rules while 'debating' the facts of this issue.
See ya later!
Pat A. Vesely ;-)
Paper ballots are the 'Currency of Democracy'. They've been helping to curb election fraud since 139 BCE!
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Bev Harris
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 3816
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 11:20 pm: |
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Pat - as usual: True leadership. Just a tip of the hat to you for your excellent work. Hope the meeting goes well. And thanks, Patricia. |
Rob Lewis
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Ru_trustified
Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2006
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 9:34 am: |
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With suggested ties between leading voting machine vendors and certain political parties in various states, how does one know that even if someone comes up with a secure system and a system that resists election rigging or vote tampering, that the powers that be would not resist their adoption, or simply stonewall their evaluation, verification and adoption policitically?
In other words, if there is truth to the accusations that result outcomes where illegally tampered with, why would those in power voluntarily agree to accept as a standard machines that they could not use for to influence the outcome to their own advantage?
Does anyone know of any other commercial vendor that appears to be above board and just wants to do the "right thing" as far as producing voting machines and preserving democracy? |
Daniel R Spak
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Mapleboard
Post Number: 17
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 5:43 pm: |
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Jeb Bush overstepped his bounds in the Terri Shiavo case, too, and sent state police to confront local police, causing a constitutional crisis. Now, he is attacking Sancho, because he knows "the jig is up" soon on e-vote fraud & theft of elections. And he's in on it, because ANY honest politician would at least be for further analysis of these machines, not attacking Sancho. That tells me that Jeb Bush is in on it. And he is friends with Tom Feeney, the Republican politician who is accused by computer programmer Clint Curtis of asking him to write a computer program to "control the vote" on the electronic machines.
Keep up the great work, Bev Harris. Thank you for trying to help save our democracy. |
Daniel R Spak
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Mapleboard
Post Number: 18
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 5:45 pm: |
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It will be hard for the people of Florida to ever get Jeb Bush out of there, on these machines. I feel bad for them. |
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