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Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 5527
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? 
Votes: 4 | | Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 4:29 am: | |
Dan -- those are nice procedures but as we learned, won't necessarily work.
The Black Box Voting projects with the Hursti attacks on the Diebold op-scan machine hack the poll tape. The second one, which he did on Dec. 13, 2005, did a one-step manipulation of both the poll tape and the central tabulator results, using ONLY a memory card.
Also, you generally can't get the Statement of Votes Cast (the detail report from GEMS that breaks results out polling place by polling place -- the only way you can match up results from poll tapes to central tabulator. The SOVC is often not released at all unless you pay for it in a public records request, and generally they won't give it to you until AFTER the election is certified. There are some exceptions to this. In a large metro location that report is very large.
Random audits will not verify necessarily verify integrity either. One of the very dangerous things about the double set of books in GEMS is that it is possible to make the results wrong while any individual precinct you select will use the real numbers. That's because it allows you to de-couple the precincts with the totals. While it is true that the total does show up on the very last page of the SOVC report, as mentioned before that report is not made available in full until AFTER the spot checks are done, and besides, since the total is on the last page, they can easily say "we don't want to print out 1,000 pages, we're just printing the page that has the precinct result for the area we're spot-checking."
As is being seen in San Diego, even when you have ALL the reports they still don't necessarily match, nor do the spot-checks match (see Los Angeles, Judy Alter report) but they typically do not announce to either the candidates or the public that the spot check didn't match, nor do they seem to do anything about it.
We requested all the poll tapes back in the 2004 election. Small locations had them all, but the metro areas never had them all, due to poll worker error and also due to poor training of poll workers.
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