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Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Mailbag
Post Number: 285
Registered: 10-2005
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 - 3:37 pm: | 
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RECEIVED FROM COUNTY OFFICIAL: Subject: ES&S m100 optical Scanner Cleaning
I have been unsuccessful in finding out information and where to purchase lens cleaning sheets for my County's ES&S M100 scanner. The Election Administrator cannot get information from the vendor. I read about them sometime ago on this site. Do you have a reference and or part number for such a product and instruction for use?
J. B. L.
County election judge |
Bev Harris
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 11104
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 - 3:39 pm: |
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Here are the instructions in the ES&S M100 manual - a copy of the M100 manual is posted in the Black Box Voting document archive here:
http://www.bbvdocs.org/ESS/ess-m100-operator-manual-w.pdf
I have cut and pasted the info below; it says to use a soft cloth and water.
quote:
Cleaning the Scanner
Clean your scanner before and after each election. To clean the scanner
1. Turn off the scanner and unplug the power cord. Warning: Electrical Shock Danger. Always unplug the AC power cord, turn the scanner’s key to the OFF position and remove the key before you clean a Model 100 scanner.
2. Clean the ballot entry and exit slots with a can of pressurized clean, dry air or inert gas, which is available for order from ES&S. Aim the air can’s spray tube into the ballot entry slot and blow out all the debris. Clean the ballot exit slot in the same way. Repeat the entire procedure and inspect the entrance and exit slots with a flashlight.
3. Use pressurized air to remove dust and debris from around the menu display.
4. Use a soft cloth and water, or a mild solution of water and soap, to wipe down the scanner. Dampen, do not soak, the cloth with the cleaning solution. Do not spray cleaning solution directly onto the scanner.
5. Clean the menu display window with the damp cloth. Be careful not to scratch the display panel. Then, clean the control panel buttons and the area around the buttons.
6. Use the cloth and cleaning solution to clean the scanner’s outer case. Start at the top and work down to the base.
7. Clean the scanner’s stainless steel base plate with the cleaning solution. Wipe all traces of the cleaning solution off the scanner after you finish cleaning.
Hope this was helpful. Perhaps the vendor is hoping to get you to pay them for a service call; I am sorry ES&S has not been responsive.
Bev Harris
Founder - Black Box Voting
http://www.blackboxvoting.org
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Government is the servant of the people, and not the master of them. The people, in delegating authority, do not give their public servants the right to decide what is good for the people to know and what is not good for them to know. We insist on remaining informed so that we may retain control over the instruments of government we have created. |
Bev Harris
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 11106
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 - 8:24 pm: |
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Updated: The Election official got his answer -
Paraphrased - The ES&S product "ES-Cleaner" is a coated sheet like a ballot that is fed into the scanner and cleans the lens without disassembly. There is no reference in the manual. Each sheet costs $1.35. They should be used just before the machines are used to count ballots. Mail
ballots come in folded and sometimes in poor shape and to have the lens pristine is important to reduce the number of duplications of unreadable ballots.
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Kudos to this fine election official for such diligence.
And now I'm wondering ... why is this not in the manual and how many locations do you think clean the lens before scanning their folded absentee ballots? |
V. Kurt Bellman
Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Formerelecdir
Post Number: 3580
Registered: 4-2006
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 8:33 am: |
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Knowing generic flatbed scanners, and lenses, as I do, I kind of object to such a procedure being called "lens cleaning". There still is a lens, in the normal sense of that word, in that darned scanner, it still can get dirty, and no sheet of anything that runs through it is ever gonna clean it. Every once in a while, someone will still need to get into the guts of it with something like Kodak Lens Cleaner and Kodak Lens Cleaning Tissues, or equivalent, and clean the little sucker. It won't be annually, but it will need doing.
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"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." - Carl Sagan
"Public sentiment is everything. With it, nothing can fail. Without it, nothing can succeed". --Abraham Lincoln
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Mike LaBonte
Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Mike_labonte
Post Number: 522
Registered: 12-2005
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 10:09 am: |
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I've never seen an M100, but it is my understanding that this is a mark-sense scanner like the AccuVote-OS. Generally, mark-sense scanners have a read head with a glass rod that the ballots touch as they are fed past it. I have seen AccuVote scanners fail to accept ballots until the scan head was cleaned. Again, I don't know for sure what is inside an M100. |
Dale McClain
Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Dale
Post Number: 254
Registered: 10-2008
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 12:38 pm: |
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Hi Mike,
Quote : “I've never seen an M100“
It is a comfort for me to see JBL coming to BBV for information.
I am happy to report that Bev has such good communicating skills with the election community that now they are coming to her for advice.
I am sure that Joe Bolton (not to be confused with JBL) learned a lot from Bev during their interview about Bullet County , Kentucky.
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I do not know if the M100 scanner matches the
equipment needed to use following formula for
Detecting compromised ballots
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A facility for discerning corruption of an electronic ballot is described. The facility sends from a first computer system to a second computer system an encrypted ballot that reflects a ballot choice selected by a voter. The facility then sends a confirmation from the second computer system to the first computer system, which serves to convey the decrypted contents of the encrypted ballot as received at the second computer system, and which is generated without decrypting the encrypted ballot. In the first computer system, the facility uses the confirmation to determine whether the decrypted contents of the encrypted ballot as received at the second computer system match the ballot choice selected by the voter.
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Feb 2, 2010 BEV said:
“First, instead of ruling on the public right to have elections that are actually public (ie, processes enabling the public to see and authenticate every essential step of the election), the judge issued a ruling that demands the impossible: Before requiring a voter verified paper trail she asks for a finding as to whether the machines are secure. Of course they are not, since you cannot secure a computer against its own administrator, programmer or custodian. It will never be possible to judge a vote-counting computer to be secure, whether it has a paper trail or not. Someone always has custody of it. Someone always programs it.”
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Most of my expertise is with a Canon Flat bed scanner.
Dale |
Phillip Caine
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Phillip_caine
Post Number: 72
Registered: 3-2008
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 10:33 am: |
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These machines can never be cleaned, no matter how much soap and water is used.
There's only one solution for cleaning these machines, and that's to fast track a new law in to outlaw them all and replace them with an informed public.
I was going to make a joke, "I have a hammer you want me to clean it for you?" but this isn't funny, and the damage and noise resultant from these horrid constitution sucking machines wasn't ever funny.
If I worked for the county, I would not be looking for cleaning tools, I would be looking for support and tech's to outlaw these electronic vote tabulation devices.
It's unfair to expose you to my hatred of these devices without an explanation.
Here goes.
You election judges are looking at these problems from the point of view of a farmer getting a brand spanking new John Deer tractor. Your looking for the wax, the soap, the leather cleaner, and the water.
My problem is your tractor is driving across my field, destroying next years crop, and there's now a for sale sign on both sides of my house. So while I look at your new beautiful green Tractor, I can't help to notice you actually needed was a hand full of people with shovels who used to live in the homes with the for sale signs.
Meanwhile, We are all getting taxed for the failure of the entire system because of this flawed frame of mind which pretends they have provided public oversight 24/7 of a chip from the doping process down to the polls, and even then it would be impossible for a normal human being to actually see the electronic signals electronically representing the ballots. Therefore it's pointless to even have a poll watcher as he/she can not watch anything. While you talk about paper trails, the underlying problem I just told you remains on ALL electronic vote tabulation devices, no matter their manufacturer or model numbers, they are all flawed the same. I'd also remind you any such paper trail coming from such devices is equally flawed, and I'd also remind you they're nearly never counted and if they ever are counted, the chain of custody is broken number one, but also they're never counted in a quick enough time to prevent a candidate from being flown across the country and fast track sworn in. So in other words even when your results are flipped the bad guy wins and assumes power, starts changing law, the bad measure passes, the bad proposition is law. Doing yet more damage individually and now...collectively, I see graffiti on the for sale signs now. Counting this way leads to NO ACCOUNTABILITY. No accountability leads to corruption, corruption leads to wars, and theft, and even deeper conspiracy FACTS. And now I witness the complete un-raveling of the constitution the monetary system and our country.
So there's no longer any reason to wonder why I hate all electronic vote tabulation devices, and the electronic poll voter registration books.
When I find a lady behind a scanner, with her chair up and the power cable to the machine running under her feet, and I ask if she works here or not she tells me no, which I later find out was an outright LIE. She was the election JUDGE! (Of course I'll never be able to prove this since no cameras were allowed)
So I've had it with Election Judges, their parroting of talking points, inability to think for yourselves, while none of your solutions matter anymore in the big picture, since you all refuse to address the underlying physics problem. e.g. humans can't see electronic signals. |
Phillip Caine
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Phillip_caine
Post Number: 74
Registered: 3-2008
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 10:57 am: |
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Furthermore, I don't think it's good that an election judge had to come here for help. While we maybe more knowledgeable, I'm certainly not here working support for Diebold who is at the root of what is destroying my country.
I hope that made sense. It's not a personal attack. I am not trying to make the environment unfriendly but at the same time I am forced to question myself, what was this website setup for?
Solutions to this problem or tech support of technology we hate?
Yes cleaning up the blessed windshield of your spankin new John Deer isn't hard and I can even loan you a Kleenex. Just understand the only reason you even have a John Deer is because you stopped listening to folks like me long ago, but since your without a Kleenex.... And could you kindly park it somewhere else except on top of my tomato plants.
There's no reason we should have to re-index your constantly broken sharepoint servers into a human usable format!!
Nothing really has changed in technology, other than this ridiculous requirement to be "certified." Where were those certs back in the good old days? They didn't exist. You don't need a cert to operate an ISP. They only popped up now as a weapon against truth and sunlight. keeping unwashed hands off. Except when the whole thing fails, then suddenly you'll take any support you can get from any source. HINT: You don't need a degree to make a TV set, you need money and a plan. Money and plans now rule the United States in lieu of a Constitutional Republic.
There's no law which can't be broken, no death that can't be justified when the fox is in the hen house.
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