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Cynthia A, Laner
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Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 - 8:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Subject: Jeffrey Dean at it again

USA: We signed an agreement to purchase and paid a considerable amount of money to Jeff and Deborah Dean in order to purchase the rv park that they built and developed 10 miles south of Riggins, ID. My name is Cindy Laner. My husband, John, and I have recently left Riggins, Idaho, as Co-Owners of Canyon Pines Rv Resort, Inc.
Our life savings, my husbands inheritance, and nearly 2 years of work were invested into the business.

Recently Jeff Dean began borrowing money from the business and refused to pay it back in the amount of time he said he would. My husband and I became suspicious, and thanks to BlackBox, have found all the documentation about Jeff Dean.

Jeff Dean did not disclose to us his 23 counts of first degree theft nor his mis-management of other peoples money prior to us signing this agreement. If we had known about this man, we never would have invested in this business.

We would like help in recovering our investment. I will work this case as long as necessary to recover what is rightfully ours.

We also want to put other people on alert, as we hear that they are trying to put this business back on the market. I don't want another couple to be taken advantage of the Deans corruption.

Any assistance, legal or financial to cover the costs of legal fees, would be appreciated. We are currently broke and out of work. We have moved out of state to be with family.
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Bev Harris
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Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Cindy,

I have been keeping tabs on Jeffrey and Deborah Dean and was aware of your situation. Thanks very much for providing the details.

We restrict these forums to voting-related topics, but what you have reported does tie into election integrity, in the following way: Jeff Dean was intimately involved in programming software that is still very widely used throughout the US. He is known for his involvement in the GEMS central tabulator, used in about one-third of US voting locations. It is less well known, but equally important, that he was the key programmer for the Vote Remote program used to process absentee ballots. In fact, the signature export function in that program is causing me grave concern in connection with the trend towards massive mail-in voting and sloppy voter list management. More on that later.

We can't help with legal fees, and I certainly feel for you there. This is a horrible thing to have to go through.

I'm going to privately send you my e-mail address. I am interested in seeing any documents you have related to dealings with Jeff Dean. To the extent that I can point you in any helpful direction, I certainly will.

His handiwork is contained in a significant part of behind-the-scenes vote processing and counting, and it is relevant that he is a recidivist crook. He has already gone to jail twice, and he certainly appears to have committed fraud in his 2006 bankruptcy filings as well. These ethics are hardly a good fit for involvement in election software design.
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Cynthia A, Laner
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Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will talk with our lawyer and let you know what we decide to do. If we all can work together to keep Jeff Dean from harming anyone else, or this country, I'm all for it!
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Bev Harris
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Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 - 4:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cynthia,

Agreed! And I am so very glad you contacted us. He is not someone we want involved with elections or the public or business deals in any way, shape or form.
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Cynthia A, Laner
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Posted on Wednesday, May 6, 2009 - 7:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Were you going to send your email? I'm talking to our lawyer on Friday, but I have a couple of items that I think I can scan and upload for you.
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Bev Harris
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Posted on Wednesday, May 6, 2009 - 2:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, Cindy,

I sent you the e-mail and my phone number; if you didn't get it, let me know. You can also use the e-mail linked on the home page of this site. It's best to submit documents by e-mail privately, to preserve your own privacy.
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Cynthia A, Laner
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Posted on Wednesday, May 6, 2009 - 4:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Agreed.... and no, I didn't receive the email. I will watch for it again... and this time in my junk email folder too.
The documents are for your review and knowledge only at this point, as litigation is being considered.
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Cynthia A, Laner
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Posted on Friday, May 8, 2009 - 7:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bev - did you receive my emails with the attachments? I never got an email from you. Something is goofy...
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Bev Harris
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Posted on Friday, May 8, 2009 - 6:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Cindy,

Weird. If you e-mail to crew@blackboxvoting.org I should get it. No, I did not receive. I have some further thoughts on this, and am anxious to receive.

Sending my best to you,

Bev
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Cynthia A, Laner
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Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 3:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I sent another email from a different account. Pls watch for it.
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Bev Harris
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Posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 5:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

no email has arrived - make sure you are sending to .org, not .com
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Cynthia A, Laner
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Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 7:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bev,
have checked and double checked everything, including blocked senders on email. have you checked your blocked email group? will check back later today.
C
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Cynthia A, Laner
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Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 6:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bev,
I would really like to find a way to send you some of these documents. PLease let me know if you can think of another avenue to communicate. Your "blocked sender" file may need to be checked.
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Bev Harris
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Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 8:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't have a blocked sender file. Cynthia, call me at 206-335-7747 and we'll walk through the e-mail blockage problem.
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Bev Harris
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Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is a disposable e-mail, Cynthia, that might work. It is a trusted e-mail:

citizenmrl-bbv@yahoo.com
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Bev Harris
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Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aha! I discovered the problem - I now have your e-mails and attachments, Cynthia. In fact, all the e-mails to our Web e-mail were being stored in an inactive area (but weren't lost) -- this just for the past three weeks. We had made an adjustment due to being spam-bombed, and I forgot to activate one of the settings.

So sorry to those who tried to reach me through the crew - at address. Will respond through personal e-mail to you privately now, Cindy.
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Cynthia A, Laner
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Posted on Saturday, May 23, 2009 - 8:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

great. good to hear that you have received everything. I look forward to hearing from you.
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Bev Harris
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Posted on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 4:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great talking with you this morning, Cindy.

(The rest is back channel.)

And Mike LaBonte, thanks for facilitation during the e-mail snafus.

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