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| (US) 'HACKING DEMOCRACY' on DVD... |
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Bev Harris
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 7145
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? 
Votes: 2 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 12:42 pm: | 
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This Emmy-nominated film, produced by Russell Michaels, Simon Ardizzone, Robert Cohen and Teale-Edwards Productions, captures video taken as-it-happens and chronicles the detective story that proved that voting machines can be manipulated.
You can get this video by making a $45 donation to Black Box Voting or you can get it for about $22 plus shipping from HackingDemocracy.com
When you make the $45 donation to Black Box Voting, we are able to apply most of it to our operating expenses and we send you the DVD as a gift for your donation. When you purchase it from HackingDemocracy.com, it goes to the producers and the distributor. |
kurt halliday
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Kurthalliday
Post Number: 1
Registered: 2-2008
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 5, 2008 - 12:38 pm: |
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I think "Hacking Democracy" is important stuff. By the way, it's on Google, where I saw it.
Could I suggest a different "business model"?
1) create a web site with links to Google, etc.
2) post it widely (give it away); do press releases, promote it, etc.
3) have links back to your other activity
4) encourage donations / memberships
I expect you would find that your revenue and membership went up.
Note that you don't need to host the video, just submit it to these sites.
I would also work with social networking sites like Facebook and MySpace if I were you.
Hope this helps.
I am part of a project building a site called "Changing America" and your sort of stuff is a good candidate for linking / inclusion. It's non-partisan, etc. An example of other material: a new constitutional convention. Does that sound interesting?
Thanks for your time,
Kurt Halliday |
Bev Harris
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 7592
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 5, 2008 - 1:15 pm: |
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Kurt, welcome to Black Box Voting.
Please suggest the business model to the producers of Hacking Democracy. We were featured in the film but we don't own it, we don't have any business interest in it or rights to it, and we buy it from New Video, the distributor, just like everyone else.
Thanks, you can reach them at http://www.hackingdemocracy.com -- again, we are not a film making company and did not produce the film.
Also, for the $300,000 or so that it cost them to produce the film (because it is theatre-quality, required the high end editing equipment etc., plus lawyering) -- perhaps your model can show them how they can make themselves whole again, not being at all wealthy. I happen to know that these two nice British gentlemen ran up their personal credit cards to make the film, and went into considerable debt to get the film made, then sold it to HBO. So it's more complicated than just asking them to give it away.
But don't post your ideas here, since we don't own the film. Do contact the producers if you have strong, sound marketing ideas. |
Fred Steinen
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Fsteinen
Post Number: 1
Registered: 2-2008
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 5:48 am: |
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Netflix is renting the video via USPS. Maybe I did it backwards (nothing new), but that is how I came across this site. |
Catherine Ansbro
Frequent Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Catherine_a
Post Number: 4611
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 11:17 am: |
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Hi Fred, thanks for mentioning the Netflix video rental possibility. |
LaTonya Powell
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Amazon13
Post Number: 1
Registered: 4-2008
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 7:55 am: |
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I agree with, kurt Halliday. I just left the Hacking Democracy web site and I sent them an e-mail pretty much suggesting the same thing that he stated in his post. I also believe that this documentary is too important to capitalize on it just for profits, every American should be able to view this documentary and to restrict the viewing of it by putting a price on it is as bad as the people who are in the documentary doing the egregious things that they are doing.
This is far too important of an issue to just leave it to fate that it might be seen by enough people that it might raise some interest in our democratic society. We can make a difference in numbers, that is why our government doesn't worry about issues like these because they know that most Americans will never see nor hear about this very important issue. Therefore nothing will ever become of it.
America is broken and need to be fixed and I do believe that is is one place that we can start. I know that I'm not the only American citizen who was mad as Hell about the outcome of the past two elections, because I had a gut feeling long before I ever saw this documentary. If a price must be put on it let it be something that most Americans can afford to pay without having to sacrafice in order to get it! Allow it to be downloaded for donations if possible, or allow a certain amount to be.
Some Companies or other organizations who are non-partisan would more than likely be willing to sponsor a sight for downloads for donations. |
Bev Harris
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 7888
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? 
Votes: 5 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 10:02 am: |
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We don't own the Hacking Democracy video. For those of you proposing that the producers give it away, perhaps you can provide for them the $300,000 or so it cost them to do the film. They are not rich and maxed out credit cards and just about everything else, as well as giving up paying jobs to do the film.
I know the producers. I know they have not enriched themselves. Having sacrificed my own life savings for this cause, I urge each of you not to make suggestions like this until you have personally expended everything you have and received a few cease and desists yourselves.
Russell Michaels and Simon Ardizzone walked the walk and paid a price. Let me know when you have done the same.
And by the way: If you'd demand that the broadcast networks and film industries commission films like this, taking the personal financial burden off of talented producers, there might be a Hacking Democracy II. There's enough material, but little will to finance it among those that actually have the finances. Many don't realize that the broadcast and theatre quality of this kind of film requires investments in high end editing and film (not Super-8 camcorders), not to mention lawyers and distribution.
There's a big difference, cost-wise, between what you see on YouTube and what you see in theatres. There are reasons Hacking Democracy was seen by 6 million people and was nominated for an Emmy. To do it with quality and editorial excellence costs money and cuts a year or two out of the producer's lives -- unpaid. |
Lonalee Virgo
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Snowartist
Post Number: 1
Registered: 5-2008
Best of Black Box?
Votes: 1 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 - 2:22 am: |
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Dear Bev,
Your, donation , doesn't work. I went ahead and ordered the DVD from the producers. But I want to thank you for all that you have done! I have thought for a long time,, something is wrong with the elections. Just hard to believe. I saw the film on HBO. I plan on showing it to all my friends. I will check back, to give you a donation.
Again ,, thanks so very much! |
Bev Harris
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 8042
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 - 11:23 am: |
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Lonalee, e-mail me at bev@blackboxvoting.org to describe the error you got, if you get a chance. It was working last night...hmm.
Thanks very much and I'm thrilled that you are now educating others with the film. |
tommy l cullar
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Tombank
Post Number: 3
Registered: 5-2008
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 10:54 pm: |
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Regarding the explosive Hacking Democracy film,
there is no doubt in my mind that this documentary(work of art)will reach millions of
Americans. With the degree of truth, facts and
evidence exposed in this film, it will and should motivate us(lovers of democracy and the
U.S. Constitution)to spread the word! Engage friends and family members in coversation regarding the fraud that's occurring in this country's voting system and then invite them to
veiw your personal copy of "Hacking Democracy".
Also, after getting approval for public
veiwing(if needed), utilize local colleges and
universities, high schools, churches and etc.
So, if there's concern about the film not reaching a big percent of the population because of circumstances that may occur that's out of our control. Then, we will and must become creative, use alternative or unconventional stategies to get as much exposure for this film.
That's what I call-good ole American know how. |
Mark Langenkamp
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Misterwhiskers
Post Number: 1
Registered: 5-2008
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 11:48 am: |
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Your organization deserves so much for the work it is doing! You are literally on the front lines of a war that is raging within our nation. God bless you, and God bless America!
Hacking Democracy brought this war-hardened, 300 pound man to tears. Two days later, I still get choked up when I think about how we've all let this happen and just how much is at stake if we allow this to continue.
Right now, I feel oppressive hopelessness, but I plan to change that by becoming educated and getting involved where I live. I am not exactly living in a "swing" state, but this can't be allowed to occur ANYWHERE! |
Bev Harris
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 8258
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 12:14 pm: |
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Hi Mark, and welcome to Black Box Voting.
A wonderful citizen in New Hampshire, Nancy Tobi, provided two quotes that sum up exactly where we stand, if we have the courage to look at the truth right now:
We have it in our power to begin the world over again." - Thomas Paine
"You are not required to complete the task, yet you are not free to withdraw from it." - Rabbi Tarfon
I commend you for committing to becoming educated about these issues, and every state is a swing state, because just one or two congressional elections can swing control of the U.S. Congress.
Check back in a couple days, this weekend, and click that new Tool Kit 2008 picture at the top of our home page. It will lift your spirits. We're going to get off the defense and go on the offense. |
Brian Carter
Voting Rights Forum Participant
Username: Brian_c
Post Number: 1
Registered: 5-2009
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 - 12:32 pm: |
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HI,
I think this video is important enough for BBV to find out from the producers how much they would sell the rights for so it can be given away. Then BBV could raise the funds to pay for it, own it, and distribute it. |
Bev Harris
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 10497
Registered: 12-2004
Best of Black Box? N/A
Votes: 0 (A keeper?) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 - 4:52 pm: |
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Hi Brian,
Thank you so much for writing, and for your insights about this. The rights belong to HBO and to the British producers, who have been more than generous with showing the film, authorizing groups to show the film, and making it available at reasonable cost.
It is available for about $21 from http://www.hackingdemocracy.com, or for a $50 or more donation to Black Box Voting http://www.blackboxvoting.org/donate.html
I know the general range of the rights from HBO and believe me, if we were able to raise that much money we could give away a ridiculous number of copies, but perhaps more important, we could fund the travel needed for the next steps.
I am just grateful that the film was made. Russell Michaels and Simon Ardizzone, the original producers from England, sacrificed greatly and did an outstanding job on the film. |
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